Relay-Version: B 2.11 6/12/87; site scorn Path: uunet!zaphod!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!elan!jlo From: jlo@elan.Elan.COM (Jeff Lo) Newsgroups: rec.aviation Subject: Carmel Valley (O62) Message-ID: <916@elan.Elan.COM> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 91 18:45:05 PST Reply-To: jlo@enzo.elan.com (Jeff Lo) Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 59 I just posted this to the aviation mailing list as part of a discussion of fun places to fly and thought it might be of general interest so... Christopher Pettus says: > -- Carmel Valley is supposed to be a nice place to walk around for a > day, but the airport is definitely not for the faint-of-heart. I happened to go to O62 (Carmel Valley) with a friend on my third flight after passing my checkride. The rwy is listed as 2475x35 asphalt/dirt, with 1825 of it being asphalt. I fly out of PAO (Palo Alto) which is 2500x65, so I figure OK, it's long enough and a bit narrower, shouldn't be too big of a problem. Well, as it turns out, the asphalt part appears to be about 20 feet wide, with that last 625 feet and the outer 7-10 feet on each side being dirt. And the part that is asphalt looks to be about 20 years old or so and is kinda run down with patched spots, cracks and weeds coming up through it. While overflying the airport to find the windsock and check the winds I realized that the valley is kinda tight for turning out and coming in on the 45. So I end up going up one of the little side valleys and coming down another. Since the paved part of the runway that I see is actually 1825x20 or so, not 2475x35, I misjudge my distances to the field and end up way high on final and end up going around. Next time around I judged it better and made a decent approach and landing. After landing I realize that the taxiway is dirt, and with as little traffic as there was there, perhaps I should have taxied back down the runway as another aircraft did later. The walk into town takes about three minutes. Just south of the field is the Carmel Valley post office, and down the hill and around the corner to the right is the town. There are a number of restaurants and delis, etc. to get lunch. No night ops. allowed at O62, so you'll have to go for breakfast or lunch instead of dinner unless you are staying the night. Having done all of my training out of PAO, the short, narrow runway didn't bother me too much, just remember your instructor saying "Keep it on the centerline!" (thanks, Bruce :-) when you are on the runway. Had I trained at a bigger airport and been accustomed to having 8000x150 runways, I don't know if I would have been as comfortable (I still think any airport with more than one runway or more than 4000 feet of runway is huge :-). I think the biggest thing to keep in mind is that the valley is narrow and there's not a lot of room to maneuver around the airport. Something else to think about, especially after all of the discussion lately on the sailplane hitting people on the runway; the A/FD lists in the remarks section for O62: "CAUTION - Dogs, horses, joggers and cars on rwy". Sure enough, people, animals, etc., were out on the runway at various times, apparently without really looking for aircraft. Maybe I should start carrying an airhorn. I wonder what effect that will have on the noise abatement procedures :-) Glossary: O62 Carmel Valley airport: tiny airport next to quaint little town PAO Palo Alto airport A/FD Airport/Facility Directory -- Jeff Lo - PP-ASEL & Amateur Triumph (TR6) Mechanic Elan Computer Group, Inc. jlo@elan.com, ..!{ames,uunet}!elan!jlo 888 Villa Street, Third Floor, Mountain View, CA 94041, 415-964-2200